VICTOR ZAMMIT'S CROSS-EXAMINATION
OF CLOSED MINDED SKEPTIC J RANDI.
A significant number of people said
that the very successful cross-examination of closed-minded
skeptic Prof Stephen Hawking by litigation lawyer Victor
script placed on the internet) was a lot of fun and
very witty. They strongly suggested a cross-examination
of that closed minded skeptic J Randi.
is a very brief cross examination on just a few issues.
To cross examine that closed minded skeptic Randi - who
is on record for organizing hoaxes to fool, cheat, mislead
and deceive innocent people. This is a cross-examination
on just some of the things he has
said, done and implied.
This would be fairly close to a
real cross-examination- the information
is taken from what Randi has ALREADY STATED ACCEPTED and
IMPLIED. Some very minor flexibility and embellishment consistent
with Randi’s beliefs and record have been used for
easier reading and understanding of the script. Words in
caps are there for emphasis - which is critical during cross-examination.
Victor: Tell us Mr Randi, you claim
to have a one million dollar challenge?
Randi: Yes, I have …
Victor: You have publicly conceded
your expertise in deception and hoaxes; is this one of your
very grand hoaxes?
Randi: No, it’s not …
Victor: So what does the applicant
have to do to get the alleged million dollars?
Randi: He or she has to demonstrate
some psychic skill, mediumship or any other phenomena which
cannot be explained by science …
Victor: I have here a copy of the
conditions of your challenge … I am now handing a
copy to the judge … Tell us how long have you had
Randi: My first challenge was in
the mid sixties … for a thousand dollars …
Victor: Is your challenge an honest
Randi: Yes, it is …
Victor: For the record, are you a scientist or qualified
Randi: No not a scientist, not qualified in science ...
Victor: Since you admit you are
not a scientist, you are not academically informed in scientific
methodology, you know nothing about what amounts to a technically
successful scientific result, what method do you use to
ascertain whether a psychic test has been successful or
Randi: It would be for every body
to see if it’s been successful … it would be
Victor: So what’s going to
happen in the very likely situation when the applicant with
his/her experts tell you that the psychic demonstration
WAS successful and you will of course say it was NOT successful?
Randi: The matter will be sorted
Randi: I’ll ask for a repeated
Victor: In other words you are telling
the applicant to ‘TRUST YOU’, to trust your
judgment, to trust your discretion … right?
Randi: Kinda …
Victor: Trust someone with a PROVEN
RECORD – something you admitted in public - for organizing
PUBLIC HOXES where you instructed skeptics to MISREPRESESNT,
TO LIE, CHEAT, to be DISHONEST, to NEGATIVELY MANIPULATE
the results to cause CHAOS and CONFUSION? I put it to you
that you do NOT have the skills, the competence and the
ability to identify a successful psychic result when you
see it … DO YOU?
Randi: Yes, … I do …
Victor: We’ll see about that…
How long have you been involved in the paranormal?
Randi: Over forty years ….
Victor: And you are known as a closed-minded
Randi: Just a skeptic…
Victor: No, I did NOT ask how you
see yourself, but how you are known. I put it to you that
you are known as a closed-minded skeptic - especially to
those scientists and paranormal investigators who have accepted
the evidence for the paranormal – are you known also
as a closed minded skeptic, YES or NO!
Randi: Yes ….
Victor: Now, in the last forty years,
have you properly investigated the paranormal?
Randi: Yes …
Victor: In forty years, have you
ever accepted any aspect of the evidence for any paranormal
phenomenon and the afterlife?
Randi: No, never because …
because my investigations show the paranormal and the afterlife
do not exist …
Victor: Could you speak a little
louder and repeat the last part you said after because …
Randi: I SAID THAT THE PARANORMAL
AND THE AFTERLIFE DO NOT EXIST… did you hear that?
Victor: Very clearly THANK YOU!
In the last forty years have you come across information
that highly professional scientists – physicists,
biologists, chemists and other professional paranormal and
afterlife investigators came to the conclusion that the
paranormal is valid and the afterlife exists?
Randi: The paranormal and the afterlife
are for people who believe in fairies ..
Victor: THAT’S NOT WHAT I
ASKED. ANSWER THE QUESTION ….
Randi: Yes … yes … I
know there are those who claim that …
Victor: Being made aware of the
fact that scientists confirmed that the paranormal is valid,
ON WHAT BASIS then do you NOT accept any of the claims by
scientists that there is an afterlife and that the paranormal
Randi:The afterlife is for people
who believe in Santa Clause …
Victor: Now, would that be your
answer when the applicant says she should have passed the
initial test of the challenge? …
Randi: (... hesitates ... then in
a whisper) ... No ...
Victor: The jury heard that I'm
sure ... Tell us, in some forty years you had this challenge,
how many passed the initial test ?….
Randi: (Remains quiet)
Victor: Did you understand the question
yes or no?
Randi: Yes, yes I heard the question
… no one passed the initial test ….
Victor: NO ONE! In some FORTY YEARS??
Does not that confirm IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO PASS THE INITIAL
Randi: This is because no one has
demonstrated anything psychic …
Victor: What do you say about the
results attained by scientists who have objective and repeatable
evidence for the validity of the paranormal when there was
independent expert assessing the paranormal activity?
Randi: I say they are all wrong
Victor: All of them?
Randi: Yes ALL OF THEM ….
Victor: Even those Nobel Laureates
who investigated the paranormal?
Randi: Yes, even those …
Victor: Have you ever stated specifically,
WHERE, WHEN, HOW and WHY these scientists are wrong about
their positive results of the paranormal?
Randi: … (Hesitates …)
Victor: ANSWER THE QUESTION!
Randi: I don’t remember …Maybe
I did that in the past sometime …
Victor: I PUT IT TO YOU THAT YOU
NEVER DID - OTHEREWISE WE’D HAVE A COPY OF IT, RIGHT?
– I remind you - you are on oath here.
Randi: No, I never stated where,
when, how and why the scientists were wrong…
Victor: Have you ever read the afterlife
scientific evidence which amounts to absolute proof by that
brilliant Professor of physics Dr Jan W Vandersande …
Randi: No …
Victor: NO? Did he not try very
hard to take up your challenge? And as soon as you realized
he was a physicist who had scientific proof for the paranormal
and the afterlife – SOMEONE WHO WAS GOING TO BURST
YOUR HOAX BUBBLE - you just SLAMMED THE DOOR SHUT IN HIS
FACE so that he’d go away and save you embarrassment
and a million dollars?
Randi: I don’t remember!!!
Victor: Always the very famous line,
“I don’t remember”. Do you remember the
name of John Benneth who wanted to apply for your challenge
but you slammed the door in his face because he showed the
potential to beat the challenge?
Randi: Can’t say I remember
Victor: Naturally enough …
Remember Chris Robinson the pre-cognitive medium who demonstrated
on television he could prove psychic phenomenon? When he
tried to apply for your Challenge you SLAMMED THE DOOR SHUT
IN HIS FACE.
Randi: I don’t remember him
Victor: Naturally enough!!! Did
you read the afterlife scientific classics proving the afterlife
by Sir Oliver Lodge?
Randi: NO …
Victor: Have you read and studied
the afterlife scientific objective and repeatable evidence
of the most brilliant scientist of his time Sir William
Randi: No …
Victor: Have you ever heard of the
empirical paranormal research of Dr Dean Radin …
Randi: Yes, I have … but he’s
wrong about what he says.
Victor: Why is he wrong?
Randi: Because the paranormal does
not exist, THAT’S WHY!
Victor: But have you shown WHY his
evidence is not valid?
Randi: I couldn’t be bothered
Victor: … For the purpose of the record I would like
to enter into evidence the following highly valued scientific
studies I submit proving the paranormal and the afterlife.
Pay very close attention to the
names I am going to mention. I ask you Mr Randi, have you
read any of the paranormal and afterlife works and evidence
by these scientists and empirical afterlife investigators
who accepted the afterlife and/or the parnormal? Dr Peter
Bander, Dr Julie Beischel, Dr Robert Crookal, Professor
John Bockris, John Logie Baird, Professor Arthur Ellison,
Dr Peter Fenwick, Professor Festa, Dr Edith Fiore, Professor
David Fontana, Dr Amit Goswami, Professor Gustav Geley,
Professor Ivor Grattan-Guinesss, Professor Stanislav Grof,
Dr Arthur Guirdham, Dr Glen Hamilton, Professor Charles
Hapgood, Professor Sylvia Hart-Wright, Professor James Hyslop,
Professor William James, Dr Elizabeth Kubler-Ross, Drs Jeff
and Jody Long, afterlife investigator Mark Macy, Engineer
George Meek, Dr Raymond Moody, Dr Melvin Morse, Dr Morris
Nertherton, Dr Karlis Osis, Dr Peter Ramster, Lawyer Edward
C Randall, Dr.Konstantine Raudive, Drs J.B. and Louisa Rhine,
Nobel Laureate Professor Charles Richet, Dr Kenneth Ring,
Lawyer Dr Aubrey Rose, Professor Archie Roy Dr Michael Sabom,
Dr Hans Schaer, Professor Marilyn Schlitz, Dr. Rupert Sheldrake,
Judge Dean Shuart, Dr Ian Stevenson, Dr Claude Swanson,
Emmanuel Swedenborg, Professor Jessica Utts, Dr Pim Van
Lommel, Professor J.W. Crawford, Professor Wadhams, Prof.
Alfred Wallace, Dr Helen Wambach, Dr Carl Wickland, Dr Carla
Have you studied any of these substantive
scientists’ paranormal and/or afterlife evidence?
Randi: No and I will not read or
Victor: Why not?
Randi: Because the paranormal and
the afterlife don’t exist! I am not going to read
or study something I know does not exist …
Victor: How do you know the paranormal
and the afterlife do not exist when you never investigated
the evidence of the paranormal?
Randi: I just know …
Victor: Your INTUITION tells you?
Randi: I just know …
Victor: Since you are not supporting
your evidence by science or empiricism or logic or rationale,
aren’t you in fact and in practice being SUPERSTITIOUS
about your beliefs?
Randi: No, I’m not superstitious
Victor: YOU may not think you are
not superstitious, but when you are using BLIND FAITH –
your intuition - ARE YOU NOT, in practice, BEING SUPERSTITIOUS
the way suicide bombers have superstitious faith that some
70 virgins are waiting for them when they blow up innocent
Randi: It’s silly for anyone
to say I’m superstitious ….
Victor: We’ll leave that to
the members of the jury to consider … now tell us
for the purpose of the record – since you deny your
reliance on your intuition is superstitious .. Have you
ever come across the procedural formula that ALL scientists
around the world accept: (Victor hands formula to judge
and to Randi and to the judge):
Randi: I haven’t
got a clue in the world what that is ….
Victor: Let me briefly explain to
you what it is using very simple language then I’ll
ask you if you agree with it …
S.R. stand for Successful Results.
P stands for phenomena. R stands for repeatability. VC stands
for keeping variables constant. And T is for time and S
is for Space.
In other words, successful results
come about when a phenomenon is repeated keeping variables
constant over time and space. All scientists around the
world agree with that. Do YOU AGREE with that?
Rand: … Yes …. But what
kind of phenomena are you talking about?
Victor: the formula applies to ANY
phenomenon. BUT it must be repeated over time and space,
keeping variables constant and it must yield the same result
– as I said, ALL SCIENTISTS AROUND THE WORLD AGREE
WITH THAT. Now, do you agree with that?
Randi: In theory yes I agree with
that … but the phenomena MUST BE REPEATED over time
and space AND MUST YIELD exactly the same results …
Victor: ABSOLUTELY! You realize you’ve just accepted
the evidence for the paranormal and the afterlife?
Randi: No, I haven’t …
Victor: There are independent HIGHLY
QUALIFIED EXPERTS who stated that there is much paranormal
and afterlife evidence that is objective and which has been
repeated over time and space that yielded exactly the same
results when tested by independent experts… have you
tested any psychic phenomena yourself?
Randi: No …it doesn’t
exist so how I can I test it?
Victor: Considering the brilliant
scientists I mentioned who actually investigated the paranormal
and the afterlife, would it not be quite appropriate for
you to accept that there is objective and repeatable evidence
for the paranormal and the afterlife?
Randi: There is no evidence for
the paranormal or the afterlife …
Victor: How on earth can you say
that when you just stated YOU NEVER investigated the paranormal?
Randi: I just know there is no evidence
Victor: What’s your evidence
to support your personal, subjective beliefs that there
is no evidence for the paranormal and/or the afterlife?
Randi: (Remains quiet …)
Victor: You HAVE NO EVIDENCE TO
SUPPORT YOUR BELIEFS RIGHT?
Randi: I don’t have to prove
Victor: You mean to say all these
brilliant scientists including Nobel Laureates have PROVED
that the paranormal and many aspects of the afterlife are
objective and repeatable and YOU, WITHOUT any evidence,
let me repeat for the purpose of the record, WITHOUT ANY
EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER continue to say there is no paranormal
or the afterlife?
Randi: That’s right …
Victor: For the record, if there
is an inconsistency between SCIENCE and personal subjective
BELIEFS, which one prevails?
Randi: remains quiet … (Victor
looks sternly at Randi) … Science …
Victor: Can you ever PROVE that your subjective personal
beliefs prevail over science?
Randi: No because I am not stating
anything exists or cannot exist ..
Victor: This means those who state
the paranormal exists have to prove it ..
Randi: Absolutely ..
Victor: THAT’S EXACTLY WHAT
THESE SCIENTISTS HAVE DONE IN THEIR BOOKS – THEY ALL
STATE THE PARANORMAL AND/OR THE AFTERLIFE EXIST - and you
admitted that you have not read any of their works! In professional
debate once the evidence is presented the onus shifts onto
you – the one who disagrees - to show WHERE, WHEN,
HOW AND WHY the evidence cannot be accepted. And you have
NOT done that HAVE YOU?
Randi: I just remembered …
no skeptic can prove anything because ‘no one can
prove the negative’ …
Victor: Oh yes, you’re the
one who stated “nobody can prove there’s no
green cheese on the moon” for the last thirty years,
Randi: Yes, yes, yes, I said that
Victor: Has any scientist on earth
ever said there is green cheese on the moon?
Randi: … No … of course
Victor: Afterlife investigators
are NOT asking you to prove the negative. They are asking
you to rebut the mountain of evidence of those who are stating
the paranormal and the afterlife exist. That is the law
of professional debate. BUT you said you have not done that
… again, why not?
Randi: I can’t find any evidence
for the afterlife … and the paranormal …
Victor: But MILLIONS of other people
around the world have found the evidence! Every heard of
Neurolinguistic Programming known as NLP?
Randi: Yes, vaguely …
Victor: NLP says that whenever a
skeptic receives evidence fundamentally inconsistent with
his deeply cherished negative beliefs, the skeptic’s
mind will automatically DELETE that evidence … because
that information will give him huge, unbearable anxiety
… Is that what happened to you?
Randi: No …. NLP is wrong
Victor: Back to the challenge …
So you expect an applicant to believe you and to trust you
to be objective - when all your life you NEVER found in
favor of the paranormal, when in a closed minded way for
some forty years you keep on saying there is no evidence
notwithstanding that scientists produced objective and repeatable
evidence for the paranormal and the afterlife?
Randi: I expect the applicant to
trust me …
Victor: That's very
amusing … Pay very close attention to this question:
is it not an attempt by you to trick the applicant for your
challenge when you do not include in your conditions an
agreement in advance of the levels of statistical significance
required for the results to show whether the applicant obtained
a successful result by his/her skills or by chance?
Randi: I don’t think statistical
significance you talk about is necessary …
Victor: Are you qualified to do
statistical analysis of experimental results, YES or NO?
Randi: No …
Victor: Do you not think that your
omissions show why so many professional scientists, psychics
and mediums think your challenge IS JUST A SKEPTIC’S
HOLLOW PROPAGANDA - A REALLY BAD JOKE, THE GREATEST HOAX
IN PARANORMAL HISTORY?
Randi: (Does not answer …)
Victor: Is it not on record that
Professor Dennis Rawlins exposed your challenge repeating
in public that you, James Randi, told this Professor, to
quote, “I will always have a way out of paying …”
in relation to the challenge?
Randi: Yes, but you also have to
mention that Professor Dennis Rawlins did not mention what
I said after that … I said I always have an out –
because I’m right.
Victor: OH YOU’RE RIGHT? So
when you said “I always have an out – I’m
right” were you saying that the paranormal and the
afterlife do not and cannot exist?
Randi: … Yes … the paranormal
and the afterlife don’t exist ..
Victor: Is that what you say to
when an applicant demonstrated some psychic phenomena of
the first test?
Don’t bother to answer that
…. and you say that without a shred of evidence …
That’s why you said you will never pay a cent …
But Professor Dennis Rawlins did NOT support this claim
of yours. I put it to you that you are not telling the truth
when your claim “I’m right” … trying
to justify your stubborn denial and your huge blunder of
your life ADMITTING that you WILL NEVER pay a cent regarding
Randi: No that’s not right
Victor: I also put it to you that
this is ANOTHER reason why your alleged challenge is being
treated as a joke, a very bad disgusting joke around the
world and the greatest HOAX in PARANORMAL HISTORY ...
Part two next week: July 24th 2011
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