VICTOR ZAMMIT CROSS-EXAMINES SKEPTIC James RANDI
(This is a continuation from part
would be fairly close to a real cross-examination- the information
is taken from what closed-minded materialist J.Zwingi Randi
has ALREADY ACCEPTED and IMPLIED. Some very minor flexibility
and embellishment consistent with Zwingi Randi’s beliefs
and record have been used for easier reading and understanding
of the script. Randi's beliefs have not been misrepresented.
Words in caps are there for emphasis - very important
Have you come across magicians who have accepted the paranormal?
Randi: I don’t know of any
magician who accepts the paranormal ..
Victor: Every heard of the former
skeptic James Webster, Master magician from England? He
investigated the famous five year study called the SCOLE
EXPERIMENT– and conceded that no magician can duplicate
the SCOLE’S mediums’ stunning results. He accepted
the evidence for the afterlife … AFTER he investigated
– why would you not agree with him?
Randi: Don’t know him …
Victor: Of course not! Every heard
of George Hansen, a professional who is a full-time researcher
in the paranormal?
Randi: Name rings a bell, but can’t
place him …
Victor: Every heard of his study
which stated that there have been many magicians –
naming a number of them - who accepted the evidence for
the paranormal and/or the afterlife?
Randi: (not answering … then)
… He might have written an article but I don’t
agree with him …
Victor: Every heard of Polly Birdsell
Randi: I don’t remember her
Victor: She wrote a university Master’s
thesis about magicians and the paranormal and the afterlife.
She claims that EIGHTY TWO per cent of magicians surveyed
accepted there is evidence for the paranormal or the afterlife
– do you remember that?
Randi: No, I don’t remember
Victor: Did you ever hear of that
highly intelligent, highly gifted no-nonsense world renowned
Howard Thurston, one of the greatest and most famous magicians
of all times?
Randi: Yes, of course I have …
Victor: Did you know that in the
twenties and thirties he offered TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS for
anyone to prove the paranormal or psychic phenomena?
Randi: I don’t quite remember
that one …
Victor: Did you know that gifted
medium Arthur Ford counter offered by offering TEN THOUSAND
DOLLARS to Howard Thurston if he could find fraud in Arthur
Randi: I don’t remember …
Victor: Did you know about the incident
happened at Carnegie Hall when Howard Thurston and Arthur
Ford debated the issue – and Howard Thurston lost
very badly and promised he would investigate the paranormal
Randi: I don’t remember …
Victor: Did you know that the world
famous magician and former skeptic Howard Thurston after
investigating the paranormal accepted the evidence for the
paranormal and became a researcher for the American Society
for Psychical Research?
Randi: I don’t remember that
Victor: Of course not!
Randi: But Houdini never admitted
the paranormal when he was alive …
Victor: Have you come across information
that Houdini’s wife Beatrice confirmed that Houdini
transmitted the code he had arranged with her from the other
Randi: No, I never heard that and
I don’t want to hear it, there is no other side …
Victor: Do you know the secret code
that was agreed to between?
Randi: I don’t remember ...
Victor: Do you remember if the secret
code was just one word ‘forgive’?
Randi: I don’t remember …
Victor: That was in a letter from
Mrs Beatrice Houdini, Bess, as Harry Houdini used to call
her, to medium Arthur Ford, congratulating him and confirming
that the secret word ‘forgive’ was the right
one. Do you know anything about that?
Randi: Nobody transmitted anything
from the afterlife because there is no afterlife …
Victor: During these transmissions
there were highly credible independent witnesses from the
press – Mr. H. R. Zander, Representative of the United
Press; Mrs. Minnie Chester, life-long friend of Mrs. Houdini
and Mr. John W. Stafford, Associate Editor of Scientific
American – do you say these are not credible witnesses
when the secret code was transmitted through the medium
Randi: It couldn’t have happened
… there is no afterlife …
Victor: My question is, were the
witnesses mentioned credible or not?
Randi: No … not credible …
there is no afterlife … I just remembered ... Mrs
Houdini changed her mind later on ..
Victor: Are you referring to those aggressive skeptics who
applied a great deal of pressure and forced her to recant?
Randi: She wasn't forced to do anything ...
Victor: Does not the record show that even after the alleged
recanting, she came back to the original confirmation that
the code was absolutely correct?
Randi: No it doesn't ...
Victor: Why don't you do proper
research to get the right answer? Forget it.... Let's move
on ... What contribution did you make in this world?
Randi: I educate people how to be
critical thinkers …
Victor: Don’t you think many
people fall off their chair laughing when you say that?
Randi: And why should they?
Victor: AREN’T YOU ARE THE
PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a critical thinker?
Randi: And why not? Victor: Did
you not come to conclusions BEFORE you investigated - you
say that the paranormal does not exist, the afterlife does
not exist and that you have not rebutted the brilliant evidence
for the paranormal and the afterlife … you have not
shown where, when, how, and why the paranormal cannot be
valid – so how can you call yourself critical thinker
Randi: I know my way of doing things
is effective …
Victor: The only time you were able
to get the media to report on what you’re doing was
when you indulged in HOAXES, in DECEPTION in DISHONESTY
– these things you admit yourself … and YOU
call that critical thinking and making a contribution to
Randi: You’re twisting things
Victor: What one thing did I twist
around to your disadvantage …?
Randi: ……(quiet) …..
Victor: Would it not be right to
say that you yourself have been the greatest HOAX yourself
to the American public?
Randi: I reject that …
Victor: Recently you have been putting
videos on the internet to justify your HOAXES … you
still to-day try to justify the DECEPTION and the dishonesty
you made over the years – like that fraudulent Carlos
Randi: The hoaxes you talk about
were successful …
Victor: Are you not really deluding
yourself – fooling yourself they have any value?
Randi: No, I don’t agree with
Victor: Of course not. Would you
not say that anything planned by you was for your own personal
publicity, personal profit at the expense of truth, integrity
Randi: I wouldn’t say that
Victor: In the last 40 years you
were always extremely rude to those genuine people who tried
to demonstrate there is validity in the paranormal. You
pushed yourself for attention, you highlighted yourself,
you organized hoaxes – which are public MISREPRESENATIONS,
DISHONESTY AND DECEPTION - for your own publicity, your
own ego and for your own aggrandizement … And yet
we see that more people to-day accept the paranormal and
the afterlife than ever before. So don’t you agree
that you’ve been a HUGE national flop- to be forgotten
in the dustbin of history?
Randi: I’m not a flop ..
Victor: But in some FIFTY years
you were NOT able to show why the paranormal is not valid,
you did NOT rebut the evidence for the paranormal or the
afterlife – not even for the alluring ONE MILLION
DOLLARS … isn’t that the record of a complete